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so I read this over on the charger side today

Chrysler drop Exxon/Mobile as the supplier of motor oil. Shell now provides the motor oil that is factory fill and will be re-packaged as Mopar oil. Mobil 1 will not be the factor fill in SRTs anymore.
 

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so I read this over on the charger side today

Chrysler drop Exxon/Mobile as the supplier of motor oil. Shell now provides the motor oil that is factory fill and will be re-packaged as Mopar oil. Mobil 1 will not be the factor fill in SRTs anymore.

Interesting news Cibalo! I wonder if the reason was because of why we're running the SL rated turbo diesel oi.
 

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I'm sure it has more to do with money than anything. And you can't find the SL TD oil anymore as the SL is getting phased out for the SM
 

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I'm sure it has more to do with money than anything. And you can't find the SL TD oil anymore as the SL is getting phased out for the SM

Seriously?

Ah crap.

WTF?! It's what our engines were designed to run.

Oh well, I'm sure our engines will be fine.
 

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So Mobil 1 won't be the factory fill thats OK for us who buy the oil then take to the local shop to get changed unless you're saying Mobil 1 is being discontinued? I just had mine changed and I still find 0W40 hard to believe is best for our cars?
 

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Very interseting Daniel. Changed my oil just before I stored, so I won't need a change for awhile. Looks I'll be looking at researching this, and deciding on a new synthetic...always something!!!
 

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I'm using Amsoil 5w40 on my last change . I've used Amsoil products for years and have had excellent success from all their products .
 

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they still sell the 5w-40 TD but it is no SM rated and not SL. I believe the SL has more phosphorous which was better against wear in our engines. However Chrysler is now doing all dealer fills with Shell oil.

When I bought the TD oil it was about $7.50 a quart which is $30 for four quarts so you're saving about $4.

For the filter a lot like the NAPA Gold filter. I'm running the Mobil 1 filter right now. The general consensus is to not buy the Fram filter they are pretty cheap.
 

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I'm using Amsoil 5w40 on my last change . I've used Amsoil products for years and have had excellent success from all their products .
Hmmm...the local LX site I'm on, we just picked up a supporting vendor that carries Amsoil products. I'll have to check that out.
 

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Amsoil 5W-40 European Car...

My guy at the shop is advising me to go this route.

He is an Amsoil Rep though.

What do you think?

He said dont use the Deisel stuff from Amsoil in my car. There was no need to.

I need an oil change, so need to decide.


thanks guys
 

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If they make the right blend in the proper weight for you're temperature area then it'll be fine.

I can't run 5w in mine because our temps get too low and it actually creates a problem with poor running conditions. I've had best testing results so far with the regular old mobil 1 euro blend surprisingly enough.
 

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Heres what the Amsoil site says...

Product Description
AMSOIL European Car Formula 100% Synthetic 5W-40 Motor Oil (AFL) is specially formulated for the lubrication needs of modern European gasoline and diesel cars and light trucks. Formulated with advanced AMSOIL synthetic base stocks, premium additives and a 5W-40 viscosity rating, AMSOIL AFL is the preferred oil for virtually all European automobiles, especially turbo charged models. It is one of the only oils in North America to be recommended for the latest specifications of all three major European automakers - Volkswagen (Audi), BMW and Mercedes-Benz and the latest North American API specification. AMSOIL AFL is highly versatile for multiple applications.
AMSOIL, the leader in automotive synthetic lubrication, produced the world's first API qualified synthetic motor oil in 1972. Trust the extensive experience of AMSOIL The First in Synthetics® to do the best job protecting your engine.
Maximum Engine Protection
AMSOIL 100% Synthetic European Car Formula contains high quality anti-wear additives and surpasses the tough ACEA oil specifications for high temperature/high shear viscosity. It provides outstanding protection in high RPM, hot running engines and delivers dependable long-term performance for the extended drain intervals set by European automakers.
Superior Engine Cleanliness
The excellent oxidation stability, heat resistance and detergency properties of AMSOIL Synthetic European Car Formula keep engines clean. It is specially designed to prevent sludge and varnish deposits for reduced oil consumption, extended engine life and maximum overall performance.
Minimizes Exhaust Emissions
AMSOIL European Car Formula is designed for newer vehicle emission control systems. It meets current industry and vehicle manufacturer requirements for long life protection of gasoline vehicle catalytic converters and diesel particulate filters (DPF).
All Season Performance
The broad 5W-40 viscosity rating, low volatility (burn-off) and wax free nature of AMSOIL Synthetic European Car Formula make it excellent for hot and cold temperatures. Engine wear is reduced, oil thickening is controlled and vehicles start easier in cold temperatures.
APPLICATION
AMSOIL 100% Synthetic European Car Formula is formulated to surpass the most demanding European specifications. It is recommended for European and North American gasoline or diesel vehicles requiring any of the following worldwide specifications:
  • API SM/CF <LI class=style3>ACEA C3-04 <LI class=style3>ACEA A3/B3-04 <LI class=style3>ACEA A3/B4-04 <LI class=style3>ACEA C3 <LI class=style3>BMW LL-04 <LI class=style3>Mercedes Benz 229.31, 229.51 <LI class=style3>Porsche <LI class=style3>Saab <LI class=style3>Volvo <LI class=style3>Volkswagen 502.00, 505.00, 505.01
  • DaimlerChrysler MS-10725
Service Life
Recommended for the extended drain intervals established by the vehicle manufacturer or extend based on oil analysis. Change oil filter at time of oil change.
Mixing AMSOIL
AMSOIL AFL is compatible with conventional and synthetic motor oils. Mixing AMSOIL motor oils with other oils, however, will shorten the life expectancy and reduce the performance benefits. AMSOIL does not support extended drain intervals where oils have been mixed. Aftermarket oil additives are not recommended for use with AMSOIL motor oils.
Health & Safety
This product is not expected to cause health concerns when used for the intended application and according to the recommendations in the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS). An MSDS is available upon request at 715-392-7101 or on the AMSOIL Website. Keep Out of Reach of Children. Don't pollute. Return used oil to collection centers.​



TYPICAL TECHNICAL PROPERTIES


European Car Formula 100% Synthetic 5W-40 Motor Oil (AFL)


Kinematic Viscosity @ 100°C, cSt (ASTM D-445)


13.7



Kinematic Viscosity @ 40°C, cSt (ASTM D-445)



79.7
Viscosity Index (ASTM D-2270)



177
Viscosity CCS, cP @ °C (ASTM D-5293)



5121 (-30)
Flash Point °C (°F) (ASTM D-92)



230 (446)
Fire Point °C (°F) (ASTM D-92)



246 (474)
Pour Point °C (°F) (ASTM D-97)



-42 (-44)
Noack Volatility, % weight loss (g/100g) (ASTM D-5800)



8.7
Four Ball Wear Test (ASTM D-4172B @ 40 kg, 75°C, 1200 rpm, 1 hr), Scar, mm



0.44
Total Base Number



8.0
HTHS (cP) (ASTM D-4683)



3.7
 

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I think it will work fine for you as long as it doesn't get cold where you live for long periods of time. the main thing is that it is 100% synthetic
 

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I was reading this great topic, and wondering if this 5w-40 would be good for the 5.7 or should use small hemi owners stick with the 5w-20 ?

I heard that using 5w-40 would stop the mds from kicking in, but other then that not really any information about it.

If someone could provide input about this I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks
 

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I would stick with what the owners manual says. for the SRT it is 0w-40 but we can use 5w-40 except in the cold climates. if you should be running 5w-20 I would stick with that. If you want to turn off the MDS just use the predator
 

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0W oil is lighter and allows for fast pickup when it is cold outside. as it gets colder the oil gets thicker so they used the lightest weight oil possible to help prevent wear during cold starts. The advantage of the TD oil was that it was SL rated and was made for hard working engines like the SRT. However they have reformulated it to meet SM standards which is the newest one. The SL was better for engine wear and I think the SM is made for better emissions. It is getting hard to find SL oil anymore in the weight we need
 

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If you like Mobil 1 then just go with their 0W-40 full synthetic oil. You'll need 7 quarts and I like the NAPA gold filter
 
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