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There are always so many questions as to what tires a person should get to replace their stockers, or what tires are the right size when upgrading to a new wheel size, so I thought I would create a thread outlining stock tire sizes for our LXs. Included is Make and Model with whhel size for stock and their most common replacements. I have also included most common tire sizes for wheel upgrades.
Keep in mind, this is a working thread, I will update as new tires become available. Also I am hoping people can give CONSTRUCTIVE additions. I am hoping people can add postings such as:
1. "I had/have ______ tires in ________ size and they are great." or
2. "I had/have ______ tires in ________ size and they were horrible because....."
Let me know if you had rubbing issues or other problems with tires mentioned below. Please keep replys limited to ratings of tires or trials of success and failures. Any comments/suggestions on the thread itself could be made directly to me via PM, that would be appreciated to leave space for tire specific posts...Thank You.

P.S. if an Admin could make this a sticky that would be great.

Without Further ado, here we go.

Stock Equipment Sizes:

17" Wheels: P215/65R17 All Season Tires
Vehicles Equiped:
300 - Base, Great American Package, Touring RWD, Touring Signature Series, Limited RWD (05/06 Models)
Charger - SE, SXT RWD
Magnum - SE, SXT RWD

18" Wheels: P225/60R18 Touring All Season (Available Self Sealers)
Vehicles Equiped:
300 - Touring AWD, Limited RWD/AWD, "C" RWD/AWD, Heritage
Charger - SXT AWD, R/T RWD/AWD
Magnum - SXT AWD, R/T RWD/AWD

18" Wheels: P235/55R18
Vehicles Equiped:
Charger - Daytona (2006 Only)

20" Wheels: P245/45VR20(a), P245/45ZR20(b), P245/45ZR20 Front - P255/45ZR20 Rear(c)
Vehicles Equiped:
300 - "C"SRT Design Group (a), "C"SRT8 (b - standard, c - optional)
Charger - Daytona (a), SRT8 (b - standard, c - optional), Super Bee (b - standard, c - optional)
Magnum - R/T (a - Road and Track Performance Group), SRT8 (b - standard, c - optional)
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17" Tires:
Bridgestone Turanza Serenity (Grand Touring All-Season) 215/65HR17
Bridgestone Turanza EL400 (Standard Touring All-Season) 215/65TR17
Bridgestone Insignia SE200 (All-Season) 215/65TR17
Continental ContiTouringContact (Standard Touring All-Season) 215/65TR17
Goodyear Assurance TripleTread (All-Season) 215/65HR17
Goodyear Integrity (All-Season) 215/65TR17
Michelin HydroEdge (All-Season) 215/65TR17
Pirelli P4 Four Seasons (Standard Touring All-Season) 215/65TR17
Yokohama AVID TRZ (Standard Touring All-Season) 215/65TR17

18" Tires:
Avon Tech M550 A/S (Ultra High Performance All-Season) 225/60ZR18
Bridgestone Turanza EL400 (Standard Touring All-Season) 225/60HR18
Continental ContiProContact (Grand Touring All-Season) 225/60VR18
Continental ContiTouringContact (Grand Touring All-Season) 225/60HR18
Continental ContiTouringContact ContiSeal (Grand Touring All-Season) 225/60HR18
Continental 4x4 Contact (All-Season) 225/60HR18
Dunlop SP Sport Signature (High Performance All-Season) 225/60HR18
Firestone Firehawk GT (High Performance All-Season) 225/60HR18
General Altimax HP (Grand Touring All-Season) 225/60HR18
Goodyear Assurance ComforTred (All-Season) 225/60HR18
Michelin Primacy MXV4 (Grand Touring All-Season) 225/60HR18
Pirelli P6 Four Seasons (High Performnce All-Season) 225/60HR18
Yokohama YK520 (High Performance All-Season) 225/60R18

20" Tires:
Avon Tech M550 A/S (Ultra High Performance All-Season) 245/45ZR20
Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar (Max Performance Summer) 245/45ZR20, 255/45ZR20 (255 for Staggered Fitment Rear)
Goodyear Eagle RS-A (High Performance All-Season) 245/45VR20, 245/45ZR20, 255/45ZR20
Kumho Ecsta ASX (Ultra High Performace All-Season) 245/45ZR20, 255/45ZR20 (255 for Staggered Fitment Rear)
Nitto Invo (Luxury Sport Ultra High Performance) 245/45ZR20, 255/45ZR20 (255 for Staggered Fitment Rear)
Nitto NT420S (Ultra High Performance All-Season) 245/45R20, 255/45R20 (255 for Staggered Fitment Rear)


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Recommended OEM Wheel/Upgrade Tires Guide:
For those Who Want to Keep Their Stock Wheels But a Different Tire Size.
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17"OEM Wheels:
Bridgestone Turanza EL400-02 (Standard Touring All-Season) 225/65TR17
Bridgestone Turanza EL42 (Standard Touring All-Season) 225/60TR17
Dunlop SP Sport 4000T (Grand Touring All-Season) 225/60TR17
Dunlop Signature (Grand Touring All-Season) 225/60TR17
Goodyear Integrity (All-Season) 225/65R17
Goodyear Fortera TripleTred (Highway All-Season) 225/65R17
Goodyear Eagle LS-2 (standard Touring All-Season) 225/60HR17
Kumho Solus KH16 (Grand Touring All-Season) 225/60HR17, 235/60R17
Kumho Road Venture (Highway All-Season) 235/60R17
Michelin Energy (All-Season) 225/65R17, 235/60R17
Pirelli P6 Four Seasons (High Performance All-Season) 225/60VR17
Pirelli Scorpion STR (Highway All-Season) 235/60R17
Yokohama YK520 (High Performance All-Season) 225/65R17
Yokohama Avid H4S (High Performance All-Season) 225/65R17
Yokohama Avid TRZ (Standard Touring All-Season) 225/60R17


18" OEM Wheels:
BFGoodrich g-Force T/A (Ultra High Performance All-Season) 245/55ZR18
Bridgestone Turanza EL42 (Standard Touring All-Season) 255/55VR18
Bridgestone Turanza ER30 (Grand Touring Summer) 255/55R18
Dunlop SP Sport 5000 (Ultra High Performance All-Season) 255/55HR18
Goodyear Eagle RS-A (High Performance All-Season) 235/55VR18
Goodyear Eagle LS-2 (Standard Touring All-Season) 255/55HR18
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 (Max Performance Summer) 255/55ZR18
Goodyear Eagle ResponsEdge (Grand Touring All-Season) 255/55VR18
Goodyear Fortera TripleTred (Highway All-Season) 255/55HR18
Hankook Optimo H725 (Performance All-Season) 235/55HR18
Kumho Road Venture APT (Highway All-Season) 235/55VR18, 255/55HR18
Michelin Energy MXV4 (Grand Touring All-Season) 235/55VR18, 255/55R18
Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 (Grand Touring All-Season) 235/55VR18
Nitto NT420S (High Performance All-Season) 255/55R18
Pirelli PZero Rosso (Max Performance Summer) 255/55ZR18
Pirelli Scorpion STR (Highway All-Season) 255/55HR18
Yokohama Advan ST (Ultra High Performance All-Season) 235/60R18, 235/55R18, 255/55R18
Yokohama YK520 (High Performance All-Season) 235/55R18

20" OEM Wheels:
Continental 4x4 Sport Contact (Rear Only if car is Lowered) 275/40ZR20
Dunlop SP Sport Maxx RunOnFlat (Rear Only if car is Lowered) 275/40ZR20
Falken FK452 (All 4 Wheels) 255/45ZR20
Hankook RH06 (Rear Only if car is Lowered) 275/40ZR20
Nitto Invo (All 4 Wheels) 255/45ZR20 or Staggered with 275/40ZR20 rears (275s in Rear Only if car is Lowered)
Nitto NT420S (All 4 Wheels) 255/45ZR20
Pirelli PZero Rosso (Rear Only if car is Lowered) 275/40ZR20
Toyo Proxes ST (All 4 Wheels) 255/45VR20
Yokohama Advan ST (Rear Only if car is Lowered) 275/40ZR20
Yokohama AVID H4S (All 4 Wheels) 255/45ZR20
Yokohama Parada SpecX (All 4 Wheels) 255/45R20



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Recommended Upgrade Sizes Guide:
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22" Wheels:
22"x8.5"-9.5" Wheels (Can be All 4, or Front on Staggered Fit) 265/30ZR22 or 265/35ZR22
22"x10"-11" Wheels (Recommended Rear only w/o Fender Mods) 285/30ZR22

24" Wheels:
24"x9" Wheels (Will check on other sizes!!!) 275/25ZR24




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Last Updated: 10/23/07 @ 2300 hrs


This thread will be updated regularly, if there is something you currently have equiped that I have not covered yet, send me a PM.

Hope You Find What you Are Looking For Here


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Willy-Fantastic thread buddy! You really put some time into this- beans 4 U!

I am currently running 255/30-22 fronts, 295/25-22 rears Michelin Pilot Sport. There have been NO rubbing problems (no fender mods yet). I will be installing 265/35-22's & 295/30-22's when these wear out. I will report!

I also have on order from the Tire Rack (4) Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow 255/45-20's for the stock rims. I have seen members post that they are running these so I am certain they will fit fine. After MUCH research, these are the only snow tires that fit the stock SRT8 rims.

Thanks again for the great info!
 

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Great job!

Here's my adds for 20" SRT-8 tires:

Toyo Proxes 4 (car tires - Proxes ST are truck tires)
Sizes: 245 45R 20 Front, 275 45R20 Rear (both are same overall diameter). Or...
255 45R 20 front and rear.

The identical sizes work with the Nitto Invo, and in fact the tires are made in the same factory and the parent company is the same.

SNOW:

Pirelli Snow & Ice - 255 45R20. I've used mine for two full winters already, and they look like they'll last 4 more winters. That would be about 30,000 total miles over 6 winters. A bargain!
 

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I would like to know which tires are directional/asymmetric and which ones are non-directional/asymmetric.

I have Toyo Proxes 255-45-20's, which are directional.

The next set of tires I will be buying will be non-directional tires.
From the limited research I have done so far, Nitto and Pirelli Snow and Ice sell non-directional 255-45-20's.
 

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I did some research for 22" tires when I decided to go with 22". It's mostly about tire hight and sidewall size.
Some parts might be a little confusing coz this was meant to be for myself, but hope it helps.



Stock SRT-8 tires: Overall Diameter/ Sidewall

Front overall diameter 28.7 (diff) 4.3(diff)

255/30/22: 28.0 (-0.7) 3.0 (-1.3)
265/30/22: 28.3 (-0.4) 3.1 (-1.2)
255 35R22: 29.0 (+0.3) 3.5 (-0.8)
265/35/22: 29.3 (+0.6) 3.7 (-0.6)

Rear overall diameter 29.1 4.5

295/25/22: 27.8 (-1.3) 2.9 (-1.6)
285 30R22: 28.7 (-0.4) 3.4 (-1.1)
295 30R22: 29.1 (=) 3.5 (-1.0)
305/30/22: 29.2 (+0.1) 3.6 (-0.9)

Matching 295/25 and 265/30 combos:

Nitto iNVO
255/35ZR/22 99W 29.06
255/30ZR/22 95W 28.3
265/30ZR/22 28.3
295/25ZR/22 97W 27.83
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2
Pirelli PZero Nero
Continental SportContact2
Yokohama ADVAN Sport

295/25 and 255/30 matching combos:

Michelin Pilot Sport PS2
Yokohama ADVAN Sport

285/30 and 255/35 or 260/35 matching combos:

Nearly perfect diameter match.
Toyo Proxes 4

295/30 and 265/35 matching combos:


Pirelli Scorpion Zero Asimmetrico
Toyo Proxes S/T
Nitto 420S (very loud)
Continental 4x4 SportContact

305/30 and 265/35 matching combo:


Dunlop Sport Maxx

305/30/22 - Rear 29.2"
265/35/22 - Front 29.3
 

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Great idea. Lots of good info I was looking for. One question: I have a 2007 300 c SRT Design package with factory 20" rims. Living in Michigan, I plan to some 17" or 18" factory rims on for the winter. I've heard alot of confusing info, even from my dealer's service dept, about offset clearance required. I even bought a set of steel rims on e-Bay only to find them rubbing on the front caliper. I'll be selling those. What do I need to know in order not to make the same mistake again?
 

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Great idea. Lots of good info I was looking for. One question: I have a 2007 300 c SRT Design package with factory 20" rims. Living in Michigan, I plan to some 17" or 18" factory rims on for the winter. I've heard alot of confusing info, even from my dealer's service dept, about offset clearance required. I even bought a set of steel rims on e-Bay only to find them rubbing on the front caliper. I'll be selling those. What do I need to know in order not to make the same mistake again?

I would suggest pming Adam from Eastway chrysler. He has a perfect set of steel wheels that will clear the brakes for about $84 each. They are a supporting vendor.
 

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Originally Posted by hoberth
Great idea. Lots of good info I was looking for. One question: I have a 2007 300 c SRT Design package with factory 20" rims. Living in Michigan, I plan to some 17" or 18" factory rims on for the winter. I've heard alot of confusing info, even from my dealer's service dept, about offset clearance required. I even bought a set of steel rims on e-Bay only to find them rubbing on the front caliper. I'll be selling those. What do I need to know in order not to make the same mistake again?
Hey hoberth, Sorry to hear the 17" steels didn't fit your ride. However I'm told they should fit my 300C an I am thinking winter wheels as well. Tell me about them & if I decide to go with 17" and you decide to sell them maybe we can strike a deal. In fact we are getting snow this morning, but just a dusting they say.
Thanks for your reply in advance.

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sup HiTec and hoberth... i've made it through 3 winters on 18"s. i had my conti's the first winter, and it made it to indiana in a snow storm with 2 feet of snow at times.... (but, i wouldn't EVER do it again)... there was slight slippage, but just had to baby the pedal...

the next two winters, i had goodyear assurance comfort treads on there... they seemed to do okay, but it definitely made a difference when i put about 200 lbs of water softener salt in the trunk... she really stuck to the ground then... the only worry is ice, but no tire is going to help any vehicle unless it has spikes...

but, if u still want to have a somewhat decent look, 18's are just fine for the winter... plenty of tire there...

Originally Posted by hoberth
Great idea. Lots of good info I was looking for. One question: I have a 2007 300 c SRT Design package with factory 20" rims. Living in Michigan, I plan to some 17" or 18" factory rims on for the winter. I've heard alot of confusing info, even from my dealer's service dept, about offset clearance required. I even bought a set of steel rims on e-Bay only to find them rubbing on the front caliper. I'll be selling those. What do I need to know in order not to make the same mistake again?
Hey hoberth, Sorry to hear the 17" steels didn't fit your ride. However I'm told they should fit my 300C an I am thinking winter wheels as well. Tell me about them & if I decide to go with 17" and you decide to sell them maybe we can strike a deal. In fact we are getting snow this morning, but just a dusting they say.
Thanks for your reply in advance.

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Alt SRT8 tire sizes on stock rims

Need some help from those with more knowledge/experience than me! I have an '06 SRT8 with the F1 tires, stock rims. Not ready to invest in new wheels just yet, and the stock Goodyear F1 tires are on national back-order, so I'm shopping for something different, and hopefully better. So far, this is by far the BEST tire and wheel size discussion ANYWHERE. Kudos to everyone who's posted and done their homework...and thanks from the rest of us!

Anyway - a couple of specific questions I am hoping someone knows about...first, the stock car comes with staggered fitment tires. But the alternates listed above show 255's up front versus 245's.

Question 1 - do the 255's up front have enough clearance? There's a suspension component that's pretty close and I am wondering if it will clear.

Question 2 - with the 255's up front, does anyone feel this is better at reducing understeer sometimes reported on the SRT8? I think Dan Knott and the SRT team are pretty sharp, so why'd they go for this setup? Why not put 255's all around and allow for rotation? Is anyone running the Nitto Invo 255's (or any other brand) on all four corners and rotating them out?

Question 3 - I see options for 275/40R20's on the rear, but only if the car is lowered? Help a newbie out here - why is this so, and will a 275/40R20 work on my stock SRT8 setup and wheels?

Last - I'm looking at a new combination of sizes not previously listed and want to solicit comments/feedback on these options:

Option 1 : Nitto Invo's with 245/40R20 up front and 275/40R20 out back (40 series on the fronts instead of 45's to keep the rear wheels turning a bit slower than the fronts and keep the ESP from kicking in...).

Option 2: Yokohama also makes the Advan Sport in two configurations that look like they'll work - up front, either 245/40R20 or 255/35R20. I'm thinking of using the same 275/40R20 rear as with the Nitto's. But the Advan Sport 275 rear is an XL (extra load) tire and shows a 280 treadwear rating versus the 180 rating of the standard Advan in the 245/40 profile. Does anyone know what, if any difference this makes?

Option 3: 255/35's up front and 275/40's out back. Normally, the rears would run a slightly lower profile than the fronts...but I'm kinda interested in getting a slightly wider tire on the car, front and rear, without a wheel changeout. Are 35's up front silly on the stock wheels? The rears would have to stay around 275/40 or so to keep the gearing and speedo somewhat accurate and not mess with mileage, etc...

Overall, I'm happy with the performance of the GY F1's, except for excessive outside shoulder wear on the fronts, which I suspect is due to the hot Houston temps, abrasive concrete we have here, and the fact that I just have a lot of sharp corners to turn!

Just joined the forum today - looks like a good group.
 

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Need some help from those with more knowledge/experience than me! I have an '06 SRT8 with the F1 tires, stock rims. Not ready to invest in new wheels just yet, and the stock Goodyear F1 tires are on national back-order, so I'm shopping for something different, and hopefully better. So far, this is by far the BEST tire and wheel size discussion ANYWHERE. Kudos to everyone who's posted and done their homework...and thanks from the rest of us!

Anyway - a couple of specific questions I am hoping someone knows about...first, the stock car comes with staggered fitment. But the alternates show 255's up front versus 245's.

Question 1 - do the 255's up front have enough clearance? There's a suspension component that's pretty close and I am wondering if it will clear. 255's are just fine

Question 2 - with the 255's up front, does anyone feel this is better at reducing understeer sometimes reported on the SRT8? I think Dan Knott and the SRT team are pretty sharp, so why'd they go for this setup? Why not put 255's all around and allow for rotation? Is anyone running the Nitto Invo 255's (or any other brand) on all four corners and rotating them out? It won't make much difference at all....they went with that for looks...they said so in chat...and under EXTREME pushed to the limits they could touch the liners just a little.

Question 3 - I see options for 275/40R20's on the rear, but only if the car is lowered? Help a newbie out here - why is this so, and will a 275/40R20 work on my stock SRT8 setup and wheels? I 275's are fine, but only in proxes 4 due to their physical sizing...other companies 275's might be too wide as not every company sizes them the same. Don't know why you thought that lowered matters...but lowering the car generally restricts tire size...the higher the easier it is to fit them.

Last - I'm looking at a new combination of sizes not previously listed and want to solicit comments/feedback on these options:

Option 1 : Nitto Invo's with 245/40R20 up front and 275/40R20 out back (to keep the front wheels turning a bit slower than the rears and keep the ESP from kicking in). Having different tire sizing isn't going to help esp at all. Nor is having 275's on the back..lol..I have 285's on my car and I can turn them just fine for esp to hit. Just make sure that the 275's will fit on your rims from Nitto's specs as you don't want to balloon the tire.

Option 2: Yokohama also makes the Advan Sport in two configurations that look like they'll work - up front, either 245/40R20 or 255/35R20. I'm thinking of using the same 275/40R20 rear as with the Nitto's. But the Advan Sport 275 rear is an XL (extra load) tire and shows a 280 treadwear rating versus the 180 rating of the standard Advan in the 245/40 profile. Does anyone know what, if any difference this makes? I'm not going to bother with yokohama...nobody I know runs them, nor can I recommend them.

Overall, I'm happy with the performance of the GY F1's, except for excessive outside shoulder wear on the fronts, which I suspect is due to the hot Houston temps, abrasive concrete we have here, and the fact that I just have a lot of sharp corners to turn! Actually the wear is most likely due to the fact that most all 300's came with too much toe in with the factory alignment which wore the f1's out too fast.

Just joined the forum today - looks like a good group.

I think I got all the questions. Maybe someone else has some experience with the yokohamas.
 

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Ultimate - thanks for the feedback. Willy says in the original post that 275's are ok on the rear "only if car is lowered" - I wasn't sure what he meant by that, so that's why I posted that question. Looks like Invo 255's all around might be a good option, though.

One more question for the group - anyone in favor of simply keeping the stock GY F1's? I like them and they grip and stop very well and do pretty good in light rain, but not heavy. Their only drawback is cost, and to a lesser extent, wear (but grippy tires on a 4300 lb car are GOING to wear out fast - can't get around the laws on physics...)
 

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Ultimate - thanks for the feedback. Willy says in the original post that 275's are ok on the rear "only if car is lowered" - I wasn't sure what he meant by that, so that's why I posted that question. Looks like Invo 255's all around might be a good option, though.

One more question for the group - anyone in favor of simply keeping the stock GY F1's? I like them and they grip and stop very well and do pretty good in light rain, but not heavy. Their only drawback is cost, and to a lesser extent, wear (but grippy tires on a 4300 lb car are GOING to wear out fast - can't get around the laws on physics...)
Ok, I know this thread has been neglected, I am compliling some more data to update this thread shortly.

The lowering comment is interpreted as such:
Some people have reported putting 275 all around, although not recommended (you have to shve down a bolt or two in the suspension setup) it can be done, however, if your car is lowered by more than .5" lower than stock, the 275 can be only be used in the rear, the fronts would rub without any modifications, that where the only if lowered comment plays, it should read as "If your car is lowered the 275s will only fit the rear"

As for a recommended tire, The latest buzz in the SRT world is the new tires from Vredestein. Last month talking to a few guys running a 275/40 setup all the way around have had nothing but excellent things to say about these tires.

If you have any other questions just ask or PM me.

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Tire suggestions

Great thread. I'm looking for some advise along this line. I'm replacing my OEM wheels with 20" Asanti AF151 (2-tone, black/chrome). I'm planning on using a 245/45R20 tire. I'm not doing any super high performance type driving, but what I am interested in is preserving as much of the quiet, comfortable ride as I can while also having good tread life. From what I have seen, the Kumho ASX or the Nitto 420S might be good choices. I have winter tires on the OEM rims, so winter driving isn't an issue. Recommendations would be appreciated.
 

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Great thread. I'm looking for some advise along this line. I'm replacing my OEM wheels with 20" Asanti AF151 (2-tone, black/chrome). I'm planning on using a 245/45R20 tire. I'm not doing any super high performance type driving, but what I am interested in is preserving as much of the quiet, comfortable ride as I can while also having good tread life. From what I have seen, the Kumho ASX or the Nitto 420S might be good choices. I have winter tires on the OEM rims, so winter driving isn't an issue. Recommendations would be appreciated.
sup bud...I would go with eithe 255/45R20 all around... or if ur willing to stagger them, i'd go with 255/35 or 45 R20 in the front and 255/45 or 275/40 R20 in the rear... I have the 255/35R20 on mine all around, but I don't like the look in the rear... the front looks perfect tho. so, i'm checking to see if the 275's will fit, or i'll just go with the 255/45, which will give me more side wall without having to lower it.I have kumho's in front, and they are great. they were a replacement tire for my wanli's that popped... i'll be replacing the rear with kumho's... they last long even if just a summer tire. I also have winter tires, but I put her away for winter now.just check to see what ur asanti's will fit... i'd go 275 staggered if u can fit it...
 
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